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 03-21-2006, 10:28 Post: 126446
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Dave, recently posted about just that, Ford will be offering a new small diesel, not the PSD, in the sales-leading F-150 line in the VERY near future.

I know I've given more than one 'sports car' owner cause to rethink their purchase with my crewcab dually PSD. Tall gears in theback and a 6 spd. TX can make for a real shock to some people on the highway.

When they get passed by a pickup at 90 mph, it gets their attention, when the trailer passes them too you get some pretty shocked looks. Laughing out loud.

The guys at the trailer shop said I was the first person they had ever had come in for a high speed balance on 16" 10 ply trailer tires !!

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 03-21-2006, 12:46 Post: 126454
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Dave, Ford would like to do it as early as the 2007 model year, however they have some issues to overcome before they can.

The most likely (only at the moment) candidate would be the 2.7 V6 diesel they make at the Dagenham diesel plant in the UK for their Rover line. Problem is they're so popular that the plant is barely keeping up with current Rover sales and they haven't even brought it to North America yet.

The Ford engineers are though, working on a new, small V8 diesel, a 3.63 CGI (Compact Graphite Iron) turbo diesel. Ford's initial slip about it put performance at 275hp and 450+ ft./lbs. of torque. Lately the rumour has been that it will be 300+hp, and 500+ ft./lbs. of torque!! That will be a little on the high end for an F-150, but sounds like a good replacement for the Navistar PSD.

The rumour mill has it though, the big hold-up so far is the EPA, they are poised to bring in new CO2 and NOX limits but have kept very tight lipped about what they will be. This has people like Ford in a tight spot, do they start producing something that will be disallowed in 1 or 2 model years, or wait to see what the standards are before committing?

If I had to take an edjamikated guess-tamashun, I would say there will be a V6 TD in the 2008 F-150's....

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 03-22-2006, 08:47 Post: 126507
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Ace, Ford will be getting rid of the Navistar PSD, but not in favour of a Cummins.

As was mentioned, Cummins has a long term deal with D-C which means they can't sell that engine into another pickup, for now. Cummins wants into the European market, and D-C wants into the NA truck market, so their both going to do everything they can to keep each other happy.

Besides, by all accounts, the new CGI technology is going to be the way of the future for small diesels. It is going to do for diesels what aluminum blocks did for gas engines.

The other point is that Ford would prefer to build any new motor themselves, one of their (Ford's) big bones of contention with the Navistar was having to go back to Navistar to get changes made. Ford only had discretion over 'bolt ons' like fuel, cooling, turbo's etc. Their Dagenham diesel plant in the UK has a stellar history of building top drawer products, and has since prior to WWI, I doubt they would look outside of the Ford family now for a motor, especially since they are spending a lot time & effort to bring the CGI technology to their Cleveland Motor Plant. This can only mean that these wonderful engines are soon on their way to our driveways.

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 03-22-2006, 10:28 Post: 126520
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CGI = Compact Graphite Iron

It's a new way of casting, described by Ford as;

"Compacted Graphite Iron (CGI), CGI offers outstanding strength and durability, meaning that less material is needed in the construction of the engine. The benefits can be seen in the reduced engine weight, engine length and higher structural capabilities. A lighter engine contributes significantly to the power-to-weight ratio, which in turn has a positive effect on fuel economy."

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 03-22-2006, 13:10 Post: 126527
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Try my line....

"Honey, I'm feeling kinda down, I think I need either a [insert purchase of choice] or a Mistress to pick me up a little, which do think I should go for?"

Given the choice, the money is easier for them to part with, Rolling on the floor laughingMAO.

BTW, the lump from the frying pan is usually gone in a few days, the stainless exhaust will last for years. Laughing out loud.

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 03-22-2006, 13:53 Post: 126532
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Kenneth, I don't know that wisdom is exactly the right term to apply to that, but it's the old story, you already got a 'no', it can't get any worse, you may as well try it.

It's not always best to be brave either, after all it's the SECOND mouse that gets the cheese from the trap. ;->

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 03-22-2006, 15:36 Post: 126539
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Kenneth, as any sailor knows, when you're not getting anywhere fast, just try a different tack....

"But Honey, I NEED a big fishing boat so I can take out grandson out to spend some 'quality time' with him!"

Then when she complains of the cost of the aforementioned fishing boat, just casually mention how much LESS the tractor cab would be.

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 03-23-2006, 08:46 Post: 126570
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Ace, it's not at all that CGI is new to anyone, it has been around for quite sometime indeed.

The problem was always logistics. Because CGI is such a dense hard material the only way to machine it is VERY low cutting speeds, other wise the tools don't hold up. This is not a viable situtation for mass production.

It wasn't until very recently that they have found away around this bottleneck in production.

Up until they solved this problem they were only able to cut at surface speeds (the rate at which the CGI met the tool) of about 150 m./min. (about 488 ft./min.) they can now do it at 1,000 m./min. (about 3,250 ft./min.) an increase of 566% !!!

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